sweetfeed whisky

[FreeMountainHermit]

heat 2 gallon of water to good hard boil then pour the water in the sweet feed add your sugar and stir for about 15min. the let stand for 90min. fill to 6 gallons with cool water after waiting 90min., about 4-5hours.

How about dissolving the sugar in the boiling water and then pouring into the sweet feed ?

TIA, FMH.

[Kentucky shinner]

That will work perfectly.
sorry guys for being so late to respond. I have been MIA due to the business lately. I will try to stop by and check things out a little more often.
Mike

[FreeMountainHermit]

It's day #6 and I followed Kentucky's instructions in his OP to the letter with the exception that there were maybe a couple of ounces of sugar over the recommended 6 pounds of sugar.

Used Prestige Whisky Yeast with AG @ 82 degrees in an air locked fermenter for the entire fermentation period. Airlock bubbled happily every 2-5 seconds for 3 days and then slowed as per KS's observation in his OP.

Initial S.G. was 1.073 and at the end the hydrometer dropped like it had an anvil tied to it (ABV 0) as well as having a vinegar taste and smell to it. ??????????????????????????

Southern States sweetfeed

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was used for this fermentation and I made sure the proper SKU # (SKU: 55312051) was used when I ordered it.

It was definitely NOT an ALL grain mixture as there were quite a few darkish brown pellets throughout the mixture.


Help please. !!!!!!!!!!!! BTW they will gladly custom mix me a bag of SF at the mill and they generally have it in stock in unmarked bags. This stuff is sho' nuff all grain as I have held it in my hand.

HELP AGAIN, PLEASE.

Thank you, FMH.

[Risky Business]

Working on my third generation. Loving this. My friends like it, too. I used it in Apple Pie, and that was great, too. Nice fit between rum and whiskey. Thanks for the recipe and all the follow-up.

[WalkingWolf]

It was definitely NOT an ALL grain mixture as there were quite a few darkish brown pellets throughout the mixture.


Help please. !!!!!!!!!!!! BTW they will gladly custom mix me a bag of SF at the mill and they generally have it in stock in unmarked bags. This stuff is sho' nuff all grain as I have held it in my hand.

Run what you got you'll get something. The off smells may/may not be due to the dissolving of the pellets and the subsequent smells that are associated with it. Go to your mill and get the all-grain for your next attempt and you will be MUCH more pleased.

All part of the educational process. Good luck

[batf]

question for yall. i got some sweet feed wash that didnt ferment pass 1.010, i racked it like 3 times, its nice and clean. what can i do with it? and also, it was the cheapest feed, when i poured in the hot water, the pellets turned to mush right away, not like the other sweet feed ive used. i aint gunna use that brand again...thx

[Kentucky shinner]

I would go ahead and run it. You just wont get as much product as you would if it would have finished. You are right about not using that brand again. Here where I am at the cheap stuff is what does not have the pellets. I have tried the pellet type feed before. The finished product is not bad, but it makes a damn nasty ferment. You may have not had enough sweet feed in your ferment and run out of nutrients for your yeast. I have never had one not finished. What size wash did you make, how much sugar, what kind of yeast, how much sweet feed and how much water?
KS

[rad14701]

batf, did you re-check the SG after racking three times to clear...??? Chances are good that if you were testing the original wash the SG was being skewed by the suspended unfermentable solids from the sweet feed... You should have dropped a few ticks off the scale during the clearing process...

[batf]

mr KS and mr Rad...in a 7 gal bucket i added 4 inches of that crap sweetfeed with 5 lbs of sugar and 3 packs of feischmans dry yeast(1/4oz pack size),and apx 5 gallons of water. starting reading was 1.060 finished after 3 rackings are 1.010 the wash did come down thou after the 3rd rack to where its at now. it took over a month to stop bubbling...i kept the temp at 85 degrees the whole time.
next to the sweet feed wash is a bucket wash of corn, one ready to run the other ready to rack

[rad14701]

batf, it sounds like you either had some poor performing yeast or the sweet feed contained preservatives that weakened and then killed the yeast colony... That's my best hunch based on the information you've provided...

[FreeMountainHermit]

After 5 days my hydrometer sank like the Titanic. Gone !!! Hit the bottom of my 8.5 gallon fermenter like a rock.

WTF ?????


Thank you, FMH.

[Bull Rider]

Are you sure that it was your hydrometer, and not the alchometer?



Bull.

[rad14701]

Are you sure that it was your hydrometer, and not the alchometer?

That was the question that came to mind when I read FreeMountainHermit's post earlier...

[FreeMountainHermit]

Are you sure that it was your hydrometer, and not the alchometer?

That was the question that came to mind when I read FreeMountainHermit's post earlier...

Hydrometer, fo' sho'. Reads correctly in my other mashes.


Thank you, FMH.

[Odin]

Just bought me some sweet feed. Lot's of oats, some barley, corn, wheat and molasses. 25 kilo's. Should help me out for a few months Just put like 10 kilo's in my new 45 liter fermenter, added 5.5 kilo's of sugar only and looking for a low gravity wash. Should improve taste, right? Also bought a fish tank heater of 50 watts. Like that I should be able to ferment around 28 degrees centigrade, instead of 21/22 degrees. Should speed up the process & add to the flavour. First run, no backset, curious to the results. Fermentation looks like Belgian ale. Smells like ... well, horses, in a way. Can't wait to get me some results. Looking for a bit more depth & character than my current UJSSM. Thinking of drinking it white, without wood, etc.

Odin.

[EscarpmentDew]

Favorite topic on this site! Haven't been doing much during the hot weather but I made some stripped wash last winter . . . been meaning to do a spirit run for over 6 months. Noticed the smell of corn wasn't as strong today as 6 months ago. I'll do a spirit run tomorrow. I hope I haven't waited too long but if I have I'll cope with it as I do vodka. Nothing is wasted, the bad stuff soaks on wood kindling and it starts my stove beautifully . . . only need a little piece of wood soaking for a few minutes.

[Odin]

Hi all,

A sweet feed question. Looking at what it in it, I saw broken corn and a lot of oats (2 varieties). The oats seem to be "whole", not cracked or broken. Is that okay?

It is bubbling away now for 12 hours and keeping a steady 32 degrees centigrade. Put in an fish tank heater and set that at 28 degrees. Did not kick in yet. There is a little foam on top, smell is good, actually. Much more than in an UJSSM. Might be an interesting, very intersting likker, hidden in there. a bit afraid about the big (like 41%) percentage of oats. Never heared much good about oats in whiskey. Any experience here?

Odin.

[Kentucky shinner]

Yes that will be fine Odin, I think you will find this has a very smooth flavor. let us know how you like it.

[Odin]

KS,

My UJSSM was called too smooth when I had a professional taster taste it. Fortunately I found out his realm was Scottish single malts. Now there are some rough corners there, which I think (not being an expert, but as a former 4 Roses drinker), should not be in a bourbon. Smooth & sweet was what he told me. Hmmm ...

In my Sweet Feed I hope to find more taste & intensity. Looking (& tasting, & smelling) the wash, it might be there. Do not know if I describe it correctly. Like the UJSSM taste with corn, but ... it is a bit one dimensional and misses a good "nose" if you get me. Love the recipe, just think my taste is - in the end - after something a bit different.

I will keep you posted!

Odin.

[WalkingWolf]

Like the UJSSM taste with corn, but ... it is a bit one dimensional and misses a good "nose" if you get me. Love the recipe, just think my taste is - in the end - after something a bit different.

I found the straight corn the same way -- I now do my UJSSM with added rye and oats and enjoy the flavor much better. The "nose" can be brought out some by using a bit more of the charred wood in the aging (not sure how you are aging Odin).

[Odin]

WW,

I use Jack Daniels oak chips. Works good. You can even over oak. like fill a 20 liter bottle with 3 liters of these chips and 10 liters of booz. Gives you a 1 to 3 ratio. Three weeks is all that is needed! MR suggested that, since this wood has seen alcohol before, most of the tanins are gone. Over oaking problems are short cutted that way. Works for me ... but on UJSSM does not really bring out that much of a nose. After filtering that is. Without filtering there is.

Odin.

[WalkingWolf]

JD chips have virtually no char on them (relative to the amount of surface area of wood grain). Try taking some of the chips and hitting them with a flame to get some char. You'll have to work quickly not to burn up the chip. This will be rather difficult on the chips. Try to search out the thicker pieces to try this on. I used more charred wood and it will intensify the bourbon nose of a spirit compared to one with less.

[Odin]

Will do that, WW! And let you know the results!

Odin.

[Coon Dog]

I picked up a bag of SF yesterday to attempt. I told the person I was running errands for a friend (since I don't know anything about livestock). I stressed all grain, no pellets, bit from looking at the ingredient lit I'm not so sure. I'm not sure how good its going to be, haven't opened the bag, but here's the ingredient list:

Oats, corn, molasses products, soybean meal, processed grain by products, soybean oil, dehydrated alfalfa meal, salt, vitamins......lots of other vitamins.

I'm a little concerned for a few reasons: oats are the first ingredient, lots of by products, soybean oil, and alfalfa meal. Any thoughts?

I started a batch last night, then couldn't finish. So, I have a converted sugar syrup in a jug that ill have to add mix, cook, cool, and ferment starting Monday. Will my mix work?

[Odin]

My fermentation is all but finished. Some small bubbles keep coming up, but SG is below 1,000. Probably the grains themselves giving a little bit of fermentation. Had that with UJSSM as well. So ... with the help of a fish tank heater and a steady 28 degrees, it fermented dry in 4 1/2 days. Letting it clear now & will be running it thru the still om saturday and sunday. More updates to come!

Odin.

Update:

Cleared ... well, if that is the right word. It is a pretty dark yellow/brownish type of beer. Not like you can look through it. Strip run will be tonight or tomorrow morning. One thing I notice is that the grains dó suck up a lot of liquid. I expected to draw off some 35 liters. It is actually closer to 25 liters! And when I look in the fermenter ... about 40% is now full with grain. "Swollen" is that the right word?

I put some 5 liters of water on top of it, to keep the buggers alive while I distill. After stilling, I will use some 40 to 50% backset to melt the sugar. Question: all the grain looks good. The floaters I took out (minor bit), the rest I let it be. Didn't take out anything. Is that an okay approach?

[Kentucky shinner]

your doing good it looks like to me Odin.

[Odin]

Another update on my first Sweetfeed Whiskey! I did the stripping run and also the spirit run. Pot stil style suited best. Taste is good to start with. Only gen 1, so no sour mash, but already this is a more interesting, complex drink. Best one yet! The first self made whiskey I actually like to drink "white". But still, I decided to put in on oak. Only gen 1 and already mighty impressive!

Tomorrow I will start gen 2 with around 40% sourmash. Bet it will improve taste even more!

Odin.

[Coon Dog]

I put together my first batch of AF last night. I simmered the grains and sugar for about 80 min before putting into my primary. It smelled heavenly. This morning the temp had come down to about 78F so I pitched the yeast. It's bubbling really great tonight now. I can't wait to run it.

I'm still a bit new to this, and it started at 14.5 brix (using a friend's refractometer) he thought he reading sounded good, but can someone point me towards an accurate read on these? I found sources online saying I may end up with anywhere from 8-12% alcohol.

[Fastill]

I put together my first batch of AF last night. I simmered the grains and sugar for about 80 min before putting into my primary. It smelled heavenly. This morning the temp had come down to about 78F so I pitched the yeast. It's bubbling really great tonight now. I can't wait to run it.

I'm still a bit new to this, and it started at 14.5 brix (using a friend's refractometer) he thought he reading sounded good, but can someone point me towards an accurate read on these? I found sources online saying I may end up with anywhere from 8-12% alcohol.

14.5 Brix=
1.060 sg,
8% poteneial ABV.
As read on my mash hydrometer..

[Coon Dog]

Ok, that's where I was thinking I was at.

With an estimated only 8%, should I add some more sugar solution? I think I added too much water and diluted down too much. Can I do this once fermentation has started (cooled to room temp before adding of course)