Whisky Science Blog

[rad14701]

It is taxed on the among of fermented alcohol. Correct? Not how much actually goes out the door?

Taxation is based on what comes off the still and flows through the "spirit safe", not what makes it out the door... That means the distiller has already paid tax on what ends up being the angels share as well as any spillage...

[Prairiepiss]

It is taxed on the among of fermented alcohol. Correct? Not how much actually goes out the door?

Taxation is based on what comes off the still and flows through the "spirit safe", not what makes it out the door... That means the distiller has already paid tax on what ends up being the angels share as well as any spillage...

Ok I thought it was based off how much alcohol was in the wash or mash? Say you have 100 gallons at 10% ABV. So you would get taxed on 10 gallons? No mater if you collected 10 gallons or 5 gallons off the still?

The micro distillerys with the little stills have to have a spirit safe too?

I must do more reading.

[rad14701]

The micro distillerys with the little stills have to have a spirit safe too?

For some reason I'm not aware of, no... I don't know if it has to do with special bonding or exactly what the difference is between the very small micro-distilleries and the big commercial guys... Would be nice to know, however... Those guys doing the eye test for cuts on Dirty Jobs didn't use one...

[Prairiepiss]

And the distillery in New York (can't remember the name). The one using the brewhaus stills were collecting in a jug on the floor. In the pics anyway. But if they are using stills that small. Hell a spirit safe is bigger then their stills.

[Dnderhead]

Say you have 100 gallons at 10% ABV. So you would get taxed on 10 gallons?
not really,,thats what the bond does .it covers the tax if tax its not payed.
every thing has to be kept tract of,,,X amount grain=X amount of mash,witch
makes X much product..then it goes to a bonded broker,then he has to show what liquor
stores/bars it was sold to(witch also are bonded).then they collect the tax.if this Chan is broken
some one is held libel.. you cant buy/make more than the bond.so if you decide to sale under the table
and skip the country they have your money (the bond) plus arresting you if they catch you.

[Dnderhead]

I dont thank any one uses a spirit safe any more.the tax was paid as it was made now you need a bond
to cover the tax.and its held "under bond" until tax is collected.

(there is at least one exception,,tennessee...they have a "AD Valorem" tax this is something like property tax
so as long as it is in /on the property you pay tax on it) (some call this the "barrel tax")

[Prairiepiss]

So what's it based off of? Because if you make a 100 gal mash at
10% and you only bottle 8% of it. And the 2% is waste. Are you paying taxes on just the 8% or the whole 10% and showing the 2% as a loss?

Numbers just used for ease. May not be realistic.

[Dnderhead]

its taxed on the end product.
as a distiller your held libel for all minis some for loss.(3-4%?) this is until it leaves your hands.

[Bushman]

Getting back to the original blog, I have enjoyed reading different strands obvious research has been taken on each of the subjects, I found the flavor wheel an interesting read!

[King Of Hearts]

Has anyone ever heard of micro distillers using crystal malt when aging?

[Bushman]

Has anyone ever heard of micro distillers using crystal malt when aging?

Not sure about micro distillers but Bushmill has used a crystal malt!

[LWTCS]

Not sure about micro distillers but Bushmill has used a crystal malt!

So is that a condensed malt extract or sumpthin?

Just thinkin a wheat type whisky with a spoonful (or two) of malted wheat extract (after the fact) would be a nice drop.

[Dnderhead]

crystal malts/caramel malts are malts that are roasted while still whet.
can come in extract,but usually the grain.most extracts are a mix.
I dont remember of any thing other than wheat base malt.

[LWTCS]

Ever used any for aging or the like Dunderhead?

[Dnderhead]

Not that I know of but I mite have by mistake,I used to make all my own malt and when keeling most likely some got a bit toasted...

[blind drunk]

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