Does anyone keep foreshots in Feints jar?

[Cornbread]

I know....I know.........dumb question.........but I am asking anyway...because I am stoopid ( & not too proud to embarress myself)

Does ANYONE keep foreshots in their feints jar?

[rad14701]

Nope... Why would you re-distill them if you know you'll just end up removing virtually 100% of them all over again...??? Foreshots aren't like heads in that there may be a significant amount of flavor or ethanol in them... Foreshots aren't worth the effort... Heads and tails are a whole nuther story...

[still_in]

i sometimes dont make any cuts at all on stripping runs, sometimes i separate the first bit out. anyway foreshots are better for use as solvent than in your belly.

[pomiataa]

I dilute the fores to 70%ABV, add some blue food color to imitate Windex and use them for multipurpose household cleaner. It works great and sterilizes at the same time.

[Cornbread]

Nope... Why would you re-distill them if you know you'll just end up removing virtually 100% of them all over again...??? Foreshots aren't like heads in that there may be a significant amount of flavor or ethanol in them... Foreshots aren't worth the effort... Heads and tails are a whole nuther story...

Thanks so much Rad. I was thinking in terms of those people that don't remove them on the STRIP run and then remove them on the keeper (SPIRIT)run and I was wondering WHY? I thought maybe...just maybe...some kind of flavor was hidden in there to use in the feints jar. I thought it was a stoopid question, but you know I have to ask. Thanks again for so much help in everything. You Moderators are worth your weight in Everclear.

[Cornbread]

Are jars of feints always used(added) on the Stripper run?

[Husker]

Thanks so much Rad. I was thinking in terms of those people that don't remove them on the STRIP run and then remove them on the keeper (SPIRIT)run and I was wondering WHY?

The 'reason' WHY that fores are removed, is so that the highest volatiles do NOT build up. This is assuming that you ARE building a feigns jug, and re-running. If you remove the first part (the fores), then the highest volatile substances will not build up (past a certain point).

If you do 20 spirit runs, cutting out the feigns and adding them back into the next run, but never removing fores, what you will have is 20x the most volatile stuff in your boiler at start (of that 20th run). However, if you did the same 20 runs, and removed 75% of the nastiest stuff in fores from each run and did NOT put that into the feigns, then on the final run, you would have about 2x or less of the amount of volatile stuff that is in a normal wash.

Say that there was 40ml of the stuff you did not want, in a wash, and you run this 20 times, keeping all of the feigns (i.e. no fore cut), then on that 20th run, there would be 800ml in there.
1. 40ml in -> 40ml in heads
2. 80ml in -> 80ml in heads
3. 120ml in -> 120ml in heads
...
20 800ml in -> probably not able to get ANY product without lots of heads in it. I.e. the product is not too good to drink.

Now, if you remove 75% of the nasty, in the fores (I do not know the exact percent, just pulling a number out of the air), then each run would be:

1. 40ml in -> 30ml in fores, 10ml left in heads
2. 50ml in -> 37.5ml in fores, 12.5ml left in heads
3. 52.5ml in -> 39.375 in fores, 13.125ml left in heads
4. 53.125ml in -> 39.84375ml in fores, 13.28125 left in heads

....

As you can see, if you remove 'enough', the amount of volatiles will somewhat level out (well 'almost' level out). However, if you bleed off the fores slowly, and thus CONCENTRATE them, you can pull a large percentage of the most volatile stuff, and REMOVE it from your distill / redistill cycle.

H.

[still crazy]

We put red food coloring in ours and call it red head booster. Put it in the snowmobiles for the radar runs.
Looks like we will have a lot left over after the amount of snow the Northeast USA is getting.