Yeast nutrients

[IAHawk]

I've been gathering materials to get ready for my first mash. I'm planning on doing a light wash for a neutral spirit. From what I've read, without any malts present in the mash there won't be sufficient nutrients for the yeast to thrive as yeast cannot live on sugar alone. I've been researching yeast nutrients but figured I would ask what the experts prefer to use as yeast nutrient rather than just buy one and hope it works out. I understand there are many types such as yeast husks and diammoninum nitrate. What do you prefer?

[Bayou-Ruler]

tomato paste and diammoninum nitrate for sugar wash

[Washashore]

Bayou, I think you meant Diammonium Phosphate (DAP)?

[junkyard dawg]

I like a little molasses, and some killed yeast.

And dap.

The killed yeast is just that. boil up a few ounces of yeast in a cup of water. This is a great source of nutrients.

Fermax is a good commercial version of dap and yeast hulls...

[Prairiepiss]

Why don't you just go to the tried and true recipe section? Birdwatchers is good. Just saying you should use a known good recipe. Instead of trying to throw stuff together and home it works.

[Bayou-Ruler]

Bayou, I think you meant Diammonium Phosphate (DAP)?

You sir are correct. That is indeed what i meant.

[Waygrumpy]

Why don't you just go to the tried and true recipe section? Birdwatchers is good. Just saying you should use a known good recipe. Instead of trying to throw stuff together and home it works.

Isn't the fun of this to try different things and try to get a product of our own. If not why are we doing this?

Just like in cooking or brewing beer there are some rules of thumb but not just one recipe. If we all limit ourselves to the 20 or so tried and true recipes we are not going to advance our skills or the art much are we?

There is a place for those recipes and I have and will use them but to learn and try new things is what I have fun with.

I also would love to here some ideas of recreating the commercial yeast nutrients.

Well just my 2p worth.

[Prairiepiss]

Why don't you just go to the tried and true recipe section? Birdwatchers is good. Just saying you should use a known good recipe. Instead of trying to throw stuff together and home it works.

Isn't the fun of this to try different things and try to get a product of our own. If not why are we doing this?

Just like in cooking or brewing beer there are some rules of thumb but not just one recipe. If we all limit ourselves to the 20 or so tried and true recipes we are not going to advance our skills or the art much are we?

There is a place for those recipes and I have and will use them but to learn and try new things is what I have fun with.

I also would love to here some ideas of recreating the commercial yeast nutrients.

Well just my 2p worth.

Yes that is the fun. But if will note. This will be the OPs first wash. That's a big note. Do you really think that is the time to experiment? At this point he needs a good reliable recipe that he can use to learn with. Learn how to ferment a wash. And oh yeah learn how to run a still. If he start with a known good consistent recipe from the tried and true section for learning. When and if he comes back with questions. They will be much easier to get answered then if he just threw a bunch of stuff together.

But then again I don't really know the experience of the OP. Since this is his first post and all. And hasn't given us a proper introduction it the welcome center. Hint hint.

So my assumptions could be wrong. All I had to go by was this one post and how he worded it. Or how I read it.

[Waygrumpy]

Why don't you just go to the tried and true recipe section? Birdwatchers is good. Just saying you should use a known good recipe. Instead of trying to throw stuff together and home it works.

Isn't the fun of this to try different things and try to get a product of our own. If not why are we doing this?

Just like in cooking or brewing beer there are some rules of thumb but not just one recipe. If we all limit ourselves to the 20 or so tried and true recipes we are not going to advance our skills or the art much are we?

There is a place for those recipes and I have and will use them but to learn and try new things is what I have fun with.

I also would love to here some ideas of recreating the commercial yeast nutrients.

Well just my 2p worth.

My appologies i stad corrected.

Yes that is the fun. But if will note. This will be the OPs first wash. That's a big note. Do you really think that is the time to experiment? At this point he needs a good reliable recipe that he can use to learn with. Learn how to ferment a wash. And oh yeah learn how to run a still. If he start with a known good consistent recipe from the tried and true section for learning. When and if he comes back with questions. They will be much easier to get answered then if he just threw a bunch of stuff together.

But then again I don't really know the experience of the OP. Since this is his first post and all. And hasn't given us a proper introduction it the welcome center. Hint hint.

So my assumptions could be wrong. All I had to go by was this one post and how he worded it. Or how I read it.

[blind drunk]

I have to agree with Mr P. While it's a whole lot of fun to experiment and all, a tried and true recipe provides a whole bunch of members' experience all rolled into one shared effort. Also, you're liable to get focused help along the way 'cause billions and billions of member have tried it over and over again with resounding success (and some failures too). But certainly, to each his own.

[rad14701]

Yes, it is far easier to get support when things go all wonky if the recipe has been tried with repeated successes, and perhaps a few problems, by the membership... That way we don't have to rely on making a wild ass guess or three... That's the reasoning behind recommending Tried and True...