Aging with Corn?

[aceswired]

When the idea occurred to me, I thought there'd probably be in-depth discussion of it here (pro or con). But I don't find much of anything. Has anyone ever tried adding a handful of clean corn kernels (crushed or whole) to their product while aging it? I'm loving the corn taste that comes through in what I'm making. It seems like aging with a little more corn would pop it forward that much more.

Maybe my search terms are wrong, but I'm not finding a lot on this, even if it's just to tell me it's pointless.

[likkerlover]

I say try it. Start with a pint and if you like it great. If not throw it back in on another run to save the alcohol.

[aceswired]

Yeah I think I will try it. It'll just take some time before I know the answer.

[shadylane]

I've been around here for a little while.
But I don't remember anyone trying it.

[waster]

I'm also all for trying it on a small scale. But it seems to me that your biggest risk might be starch haze. I have forgotten whether starch is soluable in ETH, but it is in water so haze with 60abv is likely. If its not soluable in ETH, then maybe high abv aging would work without risk of haze. For me, I don't care about haze. I drink cloudy beer all the time. Not sure why a bit of haze would matter, but to some it will be a deal-breaker.

[Boda Getta]

This thread prompts an idea I have been thinking about awhile. I have seen many posts bemoaning that UJSSM doesn't really have much corn favor; I have made several good gins by vapor induction of the botanicals in a neutral with a simple square of cheesecloth wrapped around them in my column. I've wondered the results of taking a good clean run of UJ and vapor induction using cracked corn. I think I will try it.
BG

[liquid therapy]

I'm sipping on a glass of ujssm as I type, great corn flavor. It's definitely in there. If your looking for more and run a thumper, try a big can of creamed corn. As far as aging with cracked corn? Im not so sure it will work the same as oak. Its too hard and dry. Maybe a corn cob would work better? Just a thought. Anything is worth trying. Can't wait to see how it turns out!

[dumthump]

I took one run and just for grins threw a double handful of dry whole kernel into thumper. It added more corn taste and smell, just not large improvements like I had hoped. Still it was pretty darn good.

[StillLearning1]

I have two gallons of feints that have been sitting on corn for about a month now. I figured it couldn't hurt. I plan to run it pretty soon and I'll report back if I can tell any noticeable difference. This however will only be my second feints run
First one was with some fresh CF wash so it dont really count I don't think

[moosemilk]

All this corn talk is making my mouth water. It's the biggest thing I've enjoyed since starting this hobby. Just love that corn taste! Had no problem with plenty in my UJ, and really looking forward to my first run of booners this weekend!

[Bagasso]

How about boiling some whole corn kernels, letting any haze settle and using the clear corn water to cut?

[dumthump]

From what I've seen with boiling corn the starches don't seem to settle out enough to use in cutting final product. Tomorrow morning I have two runs to do plans are to try the sweet corn in my thumper. Can't hurt and who know's may turnout great. It's going to be on a third generation mash. This is all for fun and I am learning just as most of you that are here are. The only really good advice I can give any of you is to keep notes, not only on the good runs but on the bad as well.
I do have a question. The last few runs I did there was a slight cloudiness towards the end. I only get about 1 quart every 20 to 25 minutes so I don;t think it is from running to fast. Did notice last ferment was a little cloudy too. Starch maybe. 8 gallon pot 2,5 gallon thumper 28 ft coil. Corn and sugar mash.

[StillLearning1]

From what I've seen with boiling corn the starches don't seem to settle out enough to use in cutting final product. Tomorrow morning I have two runs to do plans are to try the sweet corn in my thumper. Can't hurt and who know's may turnout great. It's going to be on a third generation mash. This is all for fun and I am learning just as most of you that are here are. The only really good advice I can give any of you is to keep notes, not only on the good runs but on the bad as well.
I do have a question. The last few runs I did there was a slight cloudiness towards the end. I only get about 1 quart every 20 to 25 minutes so I don;t think it is from running to fast. Did notice last ferment was a little cloudy too. Starch maybe. 8 gallon pot 2,5 gallon thumper 28 ft coil. Corn and sugar mash.

The cloudiness is most likely tails at the end of the run. Do you notice kind if an oil slick on the top of the jars?

[rad14701]

Fusel oils in late tails will cause cloudiness... Sometimes in early tails, during the transition from hearts to tails, as well... That's why you can't always blend linear tails into your blended spirits but, instead, need to be more selective about which jars make it in and which ones don't...

[Bagasso]

From what I've seen with boiling corn the starches don't seem to settle out enough to use in cutting final product.

I'm guessing that would be from cracked corn. I pesonally have not used it but I have boiled cracked barley and whole barley and there is a big difference.

It would also depend on how important looks are to someone. Seems like no one bats an eye at all the hazy and even cloudy beers these days but I remember when haze was frowned upon (at least in the US).

[dumthump]

Yes it is a cooked cracked corn mash. I don't see oil in the jars, but it does have an oily waxy build up on the filter I run through before it hits the jar. Must be fusel oil. Does the amount of oil vary from one type corn to another.


Man I spend way to much time on this sight! LOL

[East Coast]

Can you still get corn favor, using a reflux still?

[Tokoroa_Shiner]

Can you still get corn favor, using a reflux still?

Yup. I make my whiskey in s boka. Take hearts off at around 80%