Would this work on a pot still?
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Would this work on a pot still?
Thinking of building a 12 gallon copper pot from pint o shine's plans. I don't want the typical condenser and flake stand. Do you think I could put a double wound coil at the end of the money piece. 20' of 1/4" tubing. Maybe a copper scrubber in there to.
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Re: Would this work on a pot still?
Since its not on a down hill slide. No it won't work for a product condenser. Might work for a reflux condenser. But you would still need a product condenser. Which would need to run down hill.
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Re: Would this work on a pot still?
Ever thought about making a Graham condenser?
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Re: Would this work on a pot still?
Yep that will work. I have a coiled pre-condenser vertical like you show and then a liebig condenser at a 45 after it.
The pre-condenser really helps to take the load off of the liebig on strip runs and allows me to crank it out. It also allows for a shorter liebig.
On slower sprit runs I just run water to the liebig and it does fine.
The pre-condenser really helps to take the load off of the liebig on strip runs and allows me to crank it out. It also allows for a shorter liebig.
On slower sprit runs I just run water to the liebig and it does fine.
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Re: Would this work on a pot still?
Looks like that's what he's thinking about now, just don't know it.....Jkhippie wrote:Ever thought about making a Graham condenser?
OP, click on the Google search link on the upper right of the page, when a new page opens, just type Graham Condenser after whatever is in the address box and hit enter. You will have a bunch of info.
If you knew how to use the Google search function, I mean no disrespect. Many people new to this site don't know how it works and just get told to search for the answer. I am just trying to help you narrow it down.
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Re: Would this work on a pot still?
Nah it's not a graham condenser. With a graham condenser the vapor would go through the coil. He is showing coolant thru the coil and vapor around it.
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Re: Would this work on a pot still?
You're right on both counts Jarhead, its not a Graham and it would still work. I had it backwards. ![Surprised :o](./images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif)
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Re: Would this work on a pot still?
Just a few degrees of down slope in the lyne arm, and even the original placement would work fine.
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Re: Would this work on a pot still?
It happens occasionally. Me actually getting something right that isHound Dog wrote:You're right on both counts Jarhead, its not a Graham and it would still work. I had it backwards.
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Re: Would this work on a pot still?
How about this. I put some down angle on the lyne arm. At the end of the arm I will solder in a piece of 2" copper pipe. Wind up a condenser and solder it into a 2" cap. Add a 3/4" product take off on the bottom of the cap. A few wraps of Teflon tape on the end of the lyne arm and insert the condenser. Easy removal for cleaning and storage.
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Re: Would this work on a pot still?
I may work..the only issue i can see from your drawing is vapor could pass your coil, now you could prevent this from happening with some scrubbies in the coil. Your 3/4 " would also have to be at the lowest point to prevent pooling. It's a lot of work compared to a traditional worm or Liebig. Further, i suspect the product to be quite warm at the takeoff.. ![Question :?:](./images/smilies/icon_question.gif)
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Re: Would this work on a pot still?
Yes scrubies would be a must. And the take off will be at the very bottom of the cap. I hate the way a Liebig looks on the traditional pot still.
Re: Would this work on a pot still?
11 months in the planning stage seems like a long time. Seems like with the research here you should be up and running by now. I have a tendancy to over think and plan but at some point you just need to jump in and do it! Good Luck.
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Re: Would this work on a pot still?
I had to put the project on the back burner. I do a lot of research and didn't find anything like this on HD. I did see on a commercial web site for copper still sales they had a model of one. But they show no info. And it's soldered right into the lyne arm so you can't take it out to clean it.
Re: Would this work on a pot still?
Careful, there, cop. We've seen evidence here lately that some commercial stillmakers don't provide condensers that are really up to the task.
On the other hand, if you size it to the maximum possible power input, just like you would for a reflux coil, you should be golden. The latent heat of vaporization doesn't change, so knocking down all the vapor you can make is the same as condensing all the product you can strip, whether it happens at the top of a column or the end of a lyne arm. With concessions made to gravity, of course.
On the other hand, if you size it to the maximum possible power input, just like you would for a reflux coil, you should be golden. The latent heat of vaporization doesn't change, so knocking down all the vapor you can make is the same as condensing all the product you can strip, whether it happens at the top of a column or the end of a lyne arm. With concessions made to gravity, of course.
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Re: Would this work on a pot still?
And that's why I always make my own. Satisfaction in a job well done. And the knowledge it's done correct. I will be sizing the condenser accordingly . I can't believe some of the garbage I am seeing out there on the net.
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Re: Would this work on a pot still?
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Re: Would this work on a pot still?
Hey, you want some laughs? Look up the west coast exterminator on you tube. This clown is a riot. He's making 3/8 diameter reflux columns. And he's so sure he's right that he's condescending. LSHMSFOAIDMT
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Re: Would this work on a pot still?
What?skow69 wrote:. LSHMSFOAIDMT
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Laughing So Hard My Sofa Fell Over And I Dammnear Missed Thewalkingdead.Tap wrote:What?skow69 wrote:. LSHMSFOAIDMT
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Re: Would this work on a pot still?
Yep.! He's one good example for HOW NOT TO DO.. I saw his pressurecookerstill (aluminium of course) and some of his " I will show you how to distill at home"..skow69 wrote:Hey, you want some laughs? Look up the west coast exterminator on you tube. This clown is a riot. He's making 3/8 diameter reflux columns. And he's so sure he's right that he's condescending. LSHMSFOAIDMT
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Re: Would this work on a pot still?
copperlover1, its already been done... Pure Distilling has a pot still head which uses the same concept...
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Re: Would this work on a pot still?
Another original idea that's been thought of before. Don't you hate when that happens?
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I don't think he ever claimed originality, just that info on it was scarce. I sent him a pm with a similar one a guy did on another forum. It weren't near as pretty as the one Rad posted, but it wasn't for sale either lol. I guess you could make a mean stripping head out of a design like this.
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Didn't mean anything serious. Just keepin' it light. ![Thumbup :thumbup:](./images/smilies/icon_thumbup.gif)
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Re: Would this work on a pot still?
Hound Dog, what if you wound that cooling tube around the outside of the arm? Easy to remove, store, and maintain.
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Re: Would this work on a pot still?
I don't think you would get near enough cooling power to knock down your vapor if it were external. I believe it would work as shown. You are basically building a Graham condenser into the lyne arm.
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Re: Would this work on a pot still?
Having the Dimroth condenser inside the arm would be better.
If your wrap an external coil around the lyne arm, I'd suggest soldering it to the arm for thermal conductivity.
It's your still, but I'd do both for efficiency and originality.
If your wrap an external coil around the lyne arm, I'd suggest soldering it to the arm for thermal conductivity.
It's your still, but I'd do both for efficiency and originality.