If I were to mix.....

[Caprimulgus]

....white lightning with neutrals, dilute to 55% and age on oak. What do you think I would get? A milder aged whiskey? Or a horrible oaky neutral?

[WalkingWolf]

Rethink this question.

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If you made the "white lightning" out of the DWWG you've run you will get a nice, very mild whiskey flavor. I've done this and it taste good. It is very light in flavor though and, for most folks, I think the flavor will leave them wanting a little more whiskey flavor. Liquor that is run from anything with a grain origin will age with some whiskey flavor with many factors that will affect how much flavor.

Neutrals, on the other hand, if made from just a sugar wash will have very little decent whiskey flavor. If it is some of your first stuff to age you may get all excited but there will be far greater things in your future.

[Caprimulgus]

Why rethink? It was something I was wondering and qurious about if anyone was doing it? Not something I wasn't "enlightened" enough and just blurted out a question before thinking "right" And, no....I wasn't thinking about any DWWG. I'm not looking to re invent that wheel. You just explained the difference betwen whiskey and neutral. Not what you think the result of blending the two would be. Maybe, it's the language barrier. Me not getting the terms right cause I'm Swedish. Let me re frase. Say.......a "white" whiskey out of a pot still and neutrals from a reflux, mixed together for some one sensitive to "to much" whiskey taste. And aged on oak.

Mild(ish) whiskey? Or horrible oak tasting neutral?

[LWTCS]

If I was looking for a lighter whisky, I'd just up my RR on my wash with the grains. Could double or triple distill too.

And leave the nuetural alone,,,,,,if I understand you correctly.

[blanikdog]

Capri, as you know whisky is made from grain, doesn't matter what the grain is it's still whisky. As you hadn't let anyone know just what your 'white lightning' is based on it makes it very difficult to answer your questions. WW did his best and gave a perfectly valid reply with explanations for why he said as he did.

As we still don't know what you base is or the quantities of each I'd hazard a guess that you will get either, "Mild(ish) whiskey? Or horrible oak tasting neutral?"

Why not do it and tell everyone else the result? That way experience/knowledge is shared

[Caprimulgus]

Thank you LWTCS for the feedback. Still havn't got all the lingo. What is RR short for?

From now on, I'm going to call my neautrals Greta Garbo. *Leave me alooone!"

blanik, I used the term "white lightnig" maybe carelessly, for any white whiskey. Sorry if I confused anyone.

I'll shut up. Try it. And if I find out anything interresting enough. I'll share.

[WalkingWolf]

Then I'll go back to the beginning -- What is the white lightning made out of. White lightning being clear liquor that can be made from anything fermentable -- a generic term to say the least. Neutral -- a term used, primarily, to refer to distillate taken from a reflux still, which again, can be made from anything fermentable. Moving on to the taste of the mixed, oaked and aged end product -- goes back to the origins of the liquor. My experiences have given me products with a "whiskey" character if the fermented wash contains products that were of grain origin. If the wash was simply white sugar with a nutrient there is not a whole lot to work with here as far as flavor development is concerned and, in my opinion, there is very little flavor maturation that occurs.

Not sure what prompts the question. Do you have a bunch of neutral and need something to do with it?? I've found that the flavors obtained from a product that was intended to be a (choose your word -- Vodka, lightning, neutral, etc.) are too mild to be enjoyed as a whiskey by most folks. Run another wash with some grain and age it and you will, I think, be much more satisfied with your end product flavor profile.

Some folks have a hard time with grain acquisition due to their geographic locations. An UJSSM style is a very forgiving mix and I have used something as simple as a couple bags of popcorn kernels cracked with a brick (takes a little while) and some rolled oats from the breakfast cereal section. You could also get any of the different grain flours from the baking isle (in keeping with generally available ingredients in the grocery stores). Add sugar and you would be good for a minimum of 5 generations before you would even need to consider replacing any of the grain components.

Or horrible oak tasting neutral? the "oak" taste is generally a result of too much oak in too little volume of liquor. As others have said many times -- less oak for longer time. Even a neutral will not taste horribly of oak unless it is overoaked. On the flip side, any liquor will taste bad if overoaked.

Not sure the motivation for the original question. Not sure why I got in it. Not sure if I've given you a bit of information you could care remotely about.

[loneswinger]

Mixing whiskey distillate with neutral and aging on oak is, I believe, how most Canadian whiskeys are made. They are reported to have some, but almost never more than 10% straight whiskey, and the rest (90% +) is neutral. Since law mandates that Canadian whiskey is aged a minimum of 3 years in a wooden barrel, that includes the neutral. I am not sure if the neutral is mixed first then aged, or aged first then mixed.

So, you should be able to get a light whiskey flavor with this technique. I have a feeling that it will be delicate so it could be easy to over-oak, or throw off the balance in some other way.

Good Luck,

Let us know how it turns out.

-Loneswinger

edited for clarity

[Caprimulgus]

I'm done pouting now

WalkingWolf, thank you. I see now i used the wrong terminlogy And I appreciate your feedback. The original question came from....eh...my moma Who has a sensitive pallate. I bet she'll be happy with some DWWG. Which is good. Cause I'll have my neutrals for my self.

And *baam* loneswinger ads another angle to the prism, creating new light on the matter. Thanks for that too.

[WalkingWolf]

I'm done pouting now

I'z all good bro. We all add to our collective knowledge base during discussions.

ww

[LWTCS]

RR- reflux ratio

[Caprimulgus]

Cool! Now, my only question is; how do I get my moma to want to move to Canada?

[WalkingWolf]

. . . how do I get my moma to want to move to Canada?

. . . I'm Swedish.

Your women are MUCH better looking. I'd stay there just to admire the local beauty.

[Caprimulgus]

I can wrap her up and send her to you then.

[Dnderhead]

Canadian or for that mater any "blended" whiskey is fermented from grain,distilled at or below 80%,,aged ,, then "blended" or mixed.it is not
blended first. but after it is aged.

[rad14701]

Your women are MUCH better looking. I'd stay there just to admire the local beauty.

Agreed...

I used to get called a Scandinavian Misfit all the time... I guess it was better than being called a dick with ears...

[NcHooch]

Canadian or for that mater any "blended" whiskey is fermented from grain,distilled at or below 80%,,aged ,, then "blended" or mixed.it is not
blended first. but after it is aged.

So there you have it ....mix a lil aired-out white dog, with your oak-aged whiskey and you end up with some Canadian, eh?

You could call it Mapleleaf Moonshine.

NChooch